This two-part interview with Jennifer Ponce de León to discuss our respective work on aesthetics and politics with Leandro Martínez Depietri was just released as part of the Bienalsur podcast (in English). We discuss our past publications, Jennifer’s recent book, and our current book project together, engaging with the following themes: the historical materialist analysis of culture, the bourgeois concept and practice of art, the function of culture in actually existing socialism, the compositional model of ideology, and the overall role of culture as a weapon of class warfare. A special thanks to Leandro for making this happen, and for being such a great interlocutor!